Call with Deepak
Thu 29 Oct · 4:30 pm Cyprus · Riverside
Setup · links, laptop, iPad (tap to open)
0Links
Laptop and iPad (you, host, logged in):
https://riverside.com/studio/morans-studio-gCJP9Edward, Deepak (guests):
https://riverside.com/studio/morans-studio-gCJP9/zqkr-aytbBefore anything
- Live stream OFF. Button must say Record, not Go Live.
- No company names on screen or out loud.
- No income, credit, bank balance.
1Laptop
- Headphones on. Cable in if you can.
- Open the Riverside Mac app.
- Pick Call with Deepak Choudhary. (Test = New session.)
- Mic: RODECaster Duo Chat. Speaker: Default. Camera: real camera.
- Join studio.
2iPad
- Do Not Disturb on.
- Riverside app → log in → Moran's Studio → same session.
- Mic off. Camera off. Volume 0.
- ⋯ bottom left → Share screen → Start Broadcast.
- Open Notability.
No Share button = iPad isn't on iPadOS 27. Backup: cable straight into the Mac, QuickTime → New Movie Recording → pick iPad, then Riverside Share → QuickTime window.
3Record
- Deepak in: Chrome on a computer? Headphones?
- 20-second sound check.
- iPad share on, then Record.
- Mac screen: Share → Window → the Chrome tab. Never "Entire screen".
- Back to iPad: Stop the Mac share first.
- Done: Stop. Everyone stays until 100%.
Frame it (before Record)
- Say"Quick frame before we start."
- Say"I have a flow and a lot of questions."
- Say"Short answers are fine."
- Say"Keep your questions for the end."
- Say"If you jump ahead, I'll park it and come back. OK?"
- Say"Deal?" → yes → Record.
- Ask"OK if we record and use it in a video?" → yes. Clap once.
Hook (right after Record, 20 seconds)
- Say"I'm here with Deepak. We started working together six days ago."
- Say"In six days we found him 89 businesses for sale. We screened 48."
- Say"We contacted 7 brokers. Signed 1 NDA. Sent 2 offers."
- Say"Today I'll walk him through which of those I'd buy, how, and which I'd walk away from."
- Say"He also has a big vision for a roll-up. We'll go through that too, and find the best way to his goal."
- ShowSheet, Hot Deals tab, 5 seconds. Back to camera.
- Say"Deepak, let's get started. How's it going?"
- AskGive us a bit of background about you. One, two minutes.
1Open
- Say"And from your profile: 28 years in IT. Built a $1M staffing firm. M&A co-chair at ITServe."
- Say"Now you want to buy, not advise."
- Ask3 years from now: how many companies? What profit? Listed, or private?
2Where you are
- AskI got your PDF about the CWW roll-up. What is it today?
- AskWho's in it with you?
- AskAny money in it yet?
- AskHow much cash can you put in?
- AskHow much can you afford to lose?
- AskReplace income, or build wealth?
- AskWhy now?
- Write"The goal is ___."
3Buy box
- AskWhy IT services?
- AskWhat size? Revenue? Profit?
- AskOne acquisition: remote OK, or near you?
- Say"For the roll-up, location doesn't matter."
- AskWhat's an instant no?
- Say"Your search: Bay Area, Sacramento, $2M–$6M. Still right?"
- Say"Your profile says: $500K profit minimum. Max price $5M."
- Say"Two of the three deals on your desk are below that bar."
- AskIs $500K the real line, or a wish?
- Write70% recurring · 90% retention · 20% margin
4Your challenges
- AskWhat do you think are your challenges?
- AskWhat have you tried?
- AskWhat happened with brokers?
- AskBiggest fear?
- AskWho told you no? What did they say?
- Say"No experience? An operator, and the seller stays a year."
- Say"No cash? 10% down. SBA, seller note, investors."
- Say"Brokers ignore you? They answer a buyer with a process."
5How you found it
- AskHow did you find your platform company?
- AskRevenue? Profit? Staff?
- AskDoes the owner stay? Why selling now?
- Say"We scan the marketplaces every day."
6Show the Sheet Open Sheet ↗
- Say"Here's what we did for you this week."
- Show89 listings scraped. tab: Scraped Deals
- ShowEvery one YES or NO, with why. tab: Reviewed
- Show48 hot deals. 7 enquiries. 1 NDA. 2 offers. tabs: Hot Deals, Calls
- AskWhich one excites you?
7The 5 numbers
- Say"I only look at five numbers."
1. Real profit
2. Recurring %
3. Biggest client %
4. Runs without owner?
5. DSCR → bank wants 1.25+
8Deal A · Electrical Open memo ↗
- Say"You asked us: who runs it day to day? Let's solve that."
- Say"Listing says $352K profit. Tax return: two loss years."
- Say"Owner works 70 hours. He IS the business."
- Say"So the deal only works if we solve the operator. Four ways."
Operator, 4 ways:
1. Seller stays 12 months, paid
2. Promote the #2 + 5–10% equity
3. Hire a GM, $110K (we recruit)
4. Partner-operator, sweat equity
Then: real profit ≈ 0 → price must drop
- Say"We help you find him. You ran a staffing firm, you know how to hire."
- Say"But after his salary, real profit is about zero. So price drops, or we walk."
- AskWhich of the four would you try first?
9Deal B · IT services Open memo ↗ LOI ↗
- Say"You saw the numbers. You signed the LOI. So: what happens next."
- Say"$600K, 90% seller note. The seller will push back on that."
- Say"Our move: hold the price, give on the note. 70% paper, 30% cash via SBA."
- Say"Deal-breaker: the lost client. If it's not back by diligence, we drop the price."
LOI sent ✓
Seller says no → 70% note / 30% cash
Lost client (28%) not back → price −20%
This is your platform? Yes / No
- AskIs this the platform for your roll-up, or just a deal?
10Deal C · Smog shop Open memo ↗ LOI ↗
- Say"You signed this one too. Biggest cheque. Let's be honest about it."
- Say"$934K profit, steady. $4.25M is 4.5x. The bank will test that."
- Say"$633K a year in payments. DSCR 1.47. One bad year, it's 1.0."
- Say"Two gates before money moves: a QoE, and your licence."
LOI sent ✓
Price $4.25M = 4.5x
$633K / yr → DSCR 1.47
Gates: QoE · licence · GM hired
Bad year → 1.0 → bank owns it
- AskIf the QoE says $750K, not $934K, do you still want it?
11Pick one
- AskWhich one would you buy?
- AskWhich is the platform for your roll-up?
- Say"Only the IT one is in your sector. Only the smog one meets your $500K."
- Say"Your profile wants a $400K salary. Only one of these pays that after the bank."
Elec IT Smog
Real profit ✗ ✓ ✓✓
Big client ✗ ✗ ✓
Runs w/o owner ✗ ✗ ✓
Price ✓ ✓ ✗
Roll-up fit ✗ ✓ ✗
12His plan
- Say"Let's do the math on your plan."
- AskWhy a contract, not buying them?
- AskWhy 20%?
- AskWhy 8x? Who pays that?
- AskWho buys the group at the end?
- AskWho signs first? Why would he?
- Say"A listed business is for sale. You can't 'sign it up'. You buy it."
- Say"Your group only works with owners you find yourself."
His PDF: owner with $1M profit
Sell alone: 5x − 8% broker = $4.6M
His group: 8x − 20% fee = $6.4M
Below 5.75x the owner loses
8x needs $5M profit = 10–50 owners
- Say"Buyers pay for one company. Not a contract."
13Our plan Owner Q&A ↗
- Say"Let me rebuild your plan, slowly. Stop me if anything isn't clear."
- Say"Step 1. One new holding company. Empty. Yours and mine."
- Say"Step 2. Each owner sells 100% into it. Not a contract. A sale."
- Say"Step 3. They get paid in two parts: some cash, some shares."
- Say"Step 4. They pick from a menu. More shares, higher price."
A: 3x · 30% cash · 70% shares
B: 4x · 20% cash · 80% shares
C: 5x · 10% cash · 90% shares
- Say"Step 5. Nobody closes alone. Everyone closes the same day."
- Say"Step 6. That day, the company lists. The IPO pays the cash."
- Say"Step 7. Owners keep running their firm. 5-year contract, salary, options."
- Say"Step 8. No deposit. If it never lists, they walk, it cost them nothing."
- Say"Your 20% fee becomes equity. You own part of one real company."
- Say"Your owner list already exists. It's called ITServe. You're the M&A co-chair."
- Say"And your other business tells owners how to sell. Now you're the buyer they sell to."
- ShowOwner Q&A: "Every question an owner asks. We wrote the answers."
- AskWould your owners take shares?
- AskHow many say yes today?
14Paid for
- Say"Plan A: list it. IPO pays the cash."
- Say"Plan B: raise it privately. Hard."
- Say"Plan C: buy one first, with SBA."
$5M company = $1M profit
You $500K · Bank $4.5M
$729K / yr → DSCR 1.37 ✓
$3M+ deal = QoE
- AskWho do you know with capital?
15Who runs it
- AskWho runs each company day to day?
- AskCEO or chairman: which are you?
- Say"Holdco needs a CEO and a CFO."
16Next 90 days
Wk 1: list 10 owners
Wk 2: first calls
Wk 3: financials from best 3
Wk 4: pick a pilot
Mo 2: LOIs
Mo 3: CEO + CFO
List: 9–12 months
- AskWho are your first 3 owners?
- AskWhat do you do tomorrow?
- Say"Let's run it. We film again in 90 days."
Rules
- No company names.
- Dealer one-pager stays off camera (names partners): private link
- Never promise a multiple.
- Every number is an example.
- His PDF stays off the recording.
After
- Wait for 100%. Then leave.
- Projects → check 3 tracks.
- Get Deepak's signed filming release.